Can we know the day and hour?

June 1, 2019   |   Category: Ask Irvin   |   Tags: ,

Matthew 24:36, “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”

“Knoweth” is the present tense form of know. 2,000 years ago, they couldn’t know.

Acts 1:6-7, “When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.”

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6 Responses to “Can we know the day and hour?”

  1. I respectfully disagree with Rev. Baxter about Jesus knowing the day and hour of his return,now that he is in heaven. Mr. Coates gives a proper answer to this and I only wish to add to it.
    Every generation has to watch for the Lord’s return–even the apostle Paul thought Jesus would or could return in his time as no doubt the other disciples. I Cor. 7:29-30; Titus 2:13

    Everyone who is a Christian is supposed to watch. Martin Luther thought the Pope was Antichrist and the Holy Roman Empire his kingdom for good reason. He was watching even as the past generation watched in WW2. Brother Baxter is watching in our generation. Each generation has the potential for the Lord’s return, but each generation receives more light as they watch.

    I don’t believe Jesus in his seated now at the right hand of his Father has coerced him to reveal the time of when he is to return. He will do so when the commander in chief tells him to come down. He is a respectful soldier who does not demand to know the plans of his boss for curiosity’s sake. Yes, he is divine and equal to the Father, but as a Son he has opted not to know, just as he revealed what he did know to the disciples.

    There have been “great” tribulations in the past and Jesus did not return. (Luke 17:22) Yes, I believe we will see things come together in the final generation so we will be expecting with great confidence his return. However, remember the gap between the 69th and 70th week, could there not be one in the 70th week itself? Could the invasion at Armageddon be with literal horses and swords made of wood and the vultures literally eating the flesh of horses as the world is destroyed into the Dark Ages again through nuclear war?

    We don’t know–but we sure better watch (Mark 13:35-37)

  2. J. David Coates

    There is a vast difference between knowing the day or the hour of the Rapture and knowing and understanding Bible prophecy. Jesus directly stated that no man know (that is still present tense now as much as it was when He spoke it 2000 years ago and when Matthew wrote it approximately 2000 years ago. It’s still present tense – if you want to make that argument. In v.35, Jesus said His words shall not pass away. Just because 2000 years have passed does not change the force and meaning of His words.) Jesus even said in Mark’s account that only the Father knows, the angels do not know and even the Son does not know. I just heard Brother Baxter on TBN this evening (07 Jun 2019) say that at that time, while Jesus was still in this earthly body (2000 years ago) Jesus did not know the day but then he asked, Do you really believe that Jesus does not know when He is coming back?
    I would point out that when Jesus rose from the dead He was still human, in an incorruptible but human body. He has not ceased to be human simply because He has ascended. I do take Jesus at His word and believe that the Son does not know the day but the Father knows.

    • Doug Norvell

      David,

      Jesus specifically told His disciples, concerning the Second Coming and the rapture in Mark 12:32, “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” As a result of this verse, many people have concluded a post-tribulation rapture is not possible because we would be able to know the day of Jesus’ return if it, in fact, occurs after the tribulation. In spite of this, this argument does not affect a post-tribulation rapture.

      First, we understand Jesus was speaking directly to His disciples, which means this could have been specifically for His disciples at that time. Jesus said the Son, Himself, did not know the day of His own return. Does that still apply today? Does Jesus, the all-knowing God, still question when He will return and gather His church? Of course not, which gives us reason to believe this verse was applying only to the disciples. There are other examples of prophecies being kept from those it was told to in Daniel 12:9 and Acts 1:7.

      Secondly, Paul spoke germanely to this subject in 1Thessalonians 5. In the fourth verse Paul tells the church of Thessalonica, “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.” This was in reference to the day of the Lord which pertains to the Second Coming of Jesus and the rapture. Paul stated, those in the light will not be caught off guard by the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

      Finally, Daniel 12:11-12 gives us additional days spanning beyond the 1,260 days of the tribulation. These expansion of days, the 1,290 and the 1,335, are accompanied with no details which leaves us handicapped. What exactly happens during that time? We can only speculate since we are not given a concrete answer in the Scriptures. This may prevent us from knowing the exact day of the Second Coming and the rapture but we will definitely be aware of a close approximate time because we are not in the darkness.

    • Kim Zuber

      This is a very serious twisting of scripture. The context of this parable is clearly that of a believer. However, notice that only two verses of scripture were used, and the whole of the context has been ignored.

      36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
      37. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be .
      38. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking , marrying and giving in marriage , until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
      39. And knew not until the flood came , and took them all away ; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be .

      Sounds pretty clear to me, that no man would know. If that were not enough, he further clarifies this lack of knowledge by comparing it to the fact that it was not known until the very day of the flood. Noah did not know the day or hour God would send the rains and command him to enter the ark, He only told him to prepare and be ready. We cannot cherry pick a verse completely out of context to say that we are going to know the day and hour of His coming.

      40. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken , and the other left .
      41. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken , and the other left .
      42. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

      And again .. a blatant reconfirmation of the fact that we will not know the day or the hour. Verse 42 is speaking directly to the believer and that we know by the reference to “your Lord”.

      43. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come , he would have watched , andwould not have suffered his house to be broken up .
      44. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh .
      45. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
      46. Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing .
      47. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods .
      48. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming ;
      49. And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken ;
      50. The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of ,
      51. And shall cut him asunder , and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

      Verse 44 says, “Therefore, be ye also ready” .. in other words, you, believer, need to be ready in the same way as the goodman of the house was ready.

      For this portion of scripture to refer to a non-believer you would have to rectify the facts that:

      Jesus instructs us to be ready in the same manner and that he is telling unbelievers to be ready for his coming.
      That his admonition to his “faithful and wise servant” is an admonition to an unbeliever.
      That God makes unbelievers lord and ruler over his household.
      That unbelievers are “his servants”
      That those same unbelieving servants will ultimately be made ruler over all his goods.

      … and that would be impossible. This passage is clearly pointing to a believer. If in fact he is talking to the believer, it is evident the believer does not know the day or hour of Christ’s return.

      The fact that someone has to go to such great lengths to change the imminent return of Christ is because if one believes in a rapture other than at the beginning of the 7 years of Jacob’s trouble, one can count the days until the return of Christ to the earth and therefore would know the day and hour of Christ’s return. If the scripture is clear that we do not know this time, the entire foundation of this teaching is destroyed. However, for the Church which will be caught away immediately preceding the tribulation, it is not concerned with the times and seasons nor the day and the hour. She is caught up in an intimate relationship with the Lord and the work of the Gospel. She will be caught up into the heavens to meet her groom in the air because she is ready, not from knowing the precise time of his return (which is a problem, this is a very poor motive for being ready), but because she is in love with Him and His work and is anxiously awaiting His return.

      • Doug Norvell

        Jesus specifically told His disciples, concerning the Second Coming and the rapture in Mark 12:32, “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” As a result of this verse, many people have concluded a post-tribulation rapture is not possible because we would be able to know the day of Jesus’ return if it, in fact, occurs after the tribulation. In spite of this, this argument does not affect a post-tribulation rapture.

        First, we understand Jesus was speaking directly to His disciples, which means this could have been specifically for His disciples at that time. Jesus said the Son, Himself, did not know the day of His own return. Does that still apply today? Does Jesus, the all-knowing God, still question when He will return and gather His church? Of course not, which gives us reason to believe this verse was applying only to the disciples. There are other examples of prophecies being kept from those it was told to in Daniel 12:9 and Acts 1:7.

        Secondly, Paul spoke germanely to this subject in 1Thessalonians 5. In the fourth verse Paul tells the church of Thessalonica, “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.” This was in reference to the day of the Lord which pertains to the Second Coming of Jesus and the rapture. Paul stated, those in the light will not be caught off guard by the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

        Finally, Daniel 12:11-12 gives us additional days spanning beyond the 1,260 days of the tribulation. These expansion of days, the 1,290 and the 1,335, are accompanied with no details which leaves us handicapped. What exactly happens during that time? We can only speculate since we are not given a concrete answer in the Scriptures. This may prevent us from knowing the exact day of the Second Coming and the rapture but we will definitely be aware of a close approximate time because we are not in the darkness.