The Apocalypse
Apocalypticism, Doomsday Scenarios
A recent headline read, “Arizona lawmakers prepare for the apocalypse.” A state Senate panel had proposed a law to develop disaster preparedness recommendations, in the event that an electromagnetic pulse attack of “Armageddon-like proportions” were to strike Arizona or the entire United States, sending the country into the dark ages.
This proposed doomsday legislation headline illustrates the exploding awareness of apocalypticism, a major theme in entertainment, social media and popular culture, that we are about to face destruction from some terrible, awesome force, such as economic collapse, dirty bombs, global warming, civil unrest, the crisis in the Ukraine, or even zombies.
Apocalypse or Revelation
When people search the Internet for such terms as “Apocalypse,” “Revelations,” or “Book of Revelation,” they may actually have in mind a more scriptural or biblical result than that which would be found in the movies or internet chat rooms. To be more precise, the word “Apocalypse” actually means, “lifting of the veil” or “revelation.” Many use the term “Apocalypse” in the context of the end of the world. This common usage could be a result of the historical use of the title “Apocalypse of John” for the last book of the New Testament, the Book of Revelation, which does indeed depict the destruction of the last human governments on earth.
Understanding The Apocalypse of John
The Book of Revelation, or The Apocalypse of John, is full of visions and symbols that seem too daunting for many to even attempt to understand. In reality, Revelation is far less figurative and far more applicable and practical to us than many believe it to be.
The Book of Revelation is divided into three parts:
- “the things which thou hast seen” – events of chapter 1.
- “the things which are” – the seven churches that existed at that time and to which John wrote in chapters 2 and 3.
- “the things which shall be hereafter” – events from chapter 4 until the end of chapter 22.
The Book of Revelation is in order, but is not in chronological order:
From chapter 4 to chapter 22, the Book of Revelation loops back to a previous point in time (not all the way to the beginning nor to the beginning of the previous loop) and begins to re-tell a story with more details provided in each re-telling. The Seven Seals tell the long story (from just after Jesus’ time on earth) and ends at Armageddon. (Revelation 6) The Seven Trumpets tell the shorter story (from WWI) and end at the Battle of Armageddon. (Revelation 11) The Seven Vials tell the really short story, beginning at or just prior to the Battle of Armageddon, and ends at the conclusion of the Battle of Armageddon. (Revelation 16) If you study the Sixth Seal, the Seventh Trumpet and the Seventh Vial side-by-side, you will see that these all describe the same event, the Day of the Lord, or the Day of Christ.
The Seals, the Trumpets, the Thunders, the Vials
The Seven Seals:
The first four seals are four horses. We see the same four horses in Zechariah 6, where we are given additional information about each. We are told that these are four spirits. (Zechariah 6:5)
- The White Horse – the spirit of Catholicism. The Pope has white robes, a white car, a white pope mobile, a white helicopter, and a white airplane.
- The Red Horse – the spirit of communism. The recognized color of Communism is red; red Russia, red China. The rider of this horse has a great sword. Russia and China are mighty military powers.
- The Black Horse – the spirit of capitalism. The recognized color of capitalism is black. The black horse goes into the “north country” (Zechariah 6:6). Almost all capitalist countries are in the northern hemisphere.
- The Pale (chloros or green) Horse – the spirit of Islam. Death and Hell followed. The recognized color of Islam is green. The pale horse is given power over one-fourth of the earth. One-fourth of the world’s population is Muslim. Islam clearly promotes a culture of death.
- The Souls Under the Altar – We believe the souls under the altar begin the Great Tribulation spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24.
- The Day of the Lord
- Armageddon – Concurrent with the Seventh Trumpet and Seventh Vial. Silence in Heaven.
The Seven Trumpets:
The First Trumpet – World War I
- No previous wars occurred with one million deaths.
- The first war fought with airplanes; hence hail and fire mingled with blood as bombs fell.
- The first time official “scorched earth policy” was employed – burned all green grass as armies retreated.
The Second Trumpet – World War II
- Fifty-two million deaths.
- Approximately 105,000 ships participated in WWII; approximately 36,000 of them were sunk – one-third (as prophesied).
- The first employment of a nuclear bomb would look exactly like a mountain burning with fire.
The Third Trumpet – The Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster in April 1986
- The Ukrainian word Chernobyl means wormwood.
The Fourth Trumpet – Shortening of the Days
- Jesus spoke of the shortening of the days in Matthew 24:22
The Fifth Trumpet – The Gulf War
- 1991 – The First Woe.
The Sixth Trumpet – World War III
- The Second Woe.
The Seventh Trumpet – Armageddon
- The Third Woe.
- The same as Sixth Seal and Seventh Vial.
- This Seventh Trumpet is the last trump (I Corinthians 15:52) – the gathering of the saints.
The Seven Thunders
We don’t know. God told John not to write these things.
The Seven Vials
- Vial 1 – A noisesome and grievous sore.
- Vial 2 – The Sea becomes blood.
- Vial 3 – Rivers and fountains become blood.
- Vial 4 – The sun scorches men.
- Vial 5 – Darkness and pain.
- Vial 6 – Euphrates river dries up to make way for kings of the East to invade Israel.
- Vial 7 – The Day of the Lord – Same as the Sixth Seal and Seventh Trumpet, the end of man’s government on earth and beginning of the government of Jesus on earth.
Two other significant events in Revelation are the Mark of the Beast and the rapture.
always keep me informed.
God help us all
GOD is good. I have no comment as of yet. I just wish to start studing the WORD once agian.
JESUS help us all understand what to do, how to act, and how to share are faith with all people to be born again. without you we have no chance, with you all thing are possible, PRAISE THE NAME OF JESUS.
God,help us to be alive with the word and live everyday as though the Lord is coming,Amen.
it is time for us as God, people to awaken and take the call of God seriously.
Everytime I hear a trmp on TV I long for it to be the real deal . I can’t wait to be with you God to Praise you and you inteneded us to do.
To Earnest you can start Take 15 minutes a day first week and slowly increase. ask God for wisdom and knowledge of what you are reading and before you know it you will be talking to god all day and can’t wait to hear his word or what he has to read. get ready for a new journey.
God help me to understand your word more and enable me to commit to your ways.
May God have mercy
I really cant get d context of the spiritual warfare written by paul at ephesians and philipian relating to the armaggedon.
sorry for the spelling but i have been up very late and am on an airplane posting this.this all makes sense but it doesn’t, the scientific possiblities dont actually match up with theReligous, yes the religous Ending is correct, but it’s middle is throughly wrong, My job as a Scientist is i study the Earth’s Core and its reactions, i will not say long name since it is confusing, but basically our crust has been becoming unstable at certain places creating something anywhere from a mini (5ftx5ft) to a large (anywhere within 26 Sq miles) sinkhole, these have been found throughout antarctica. our worries are how long do we have? We have no Idea since this has just reccently happened, i will post as i learn of more, but i am only legally allowed to post vauge “images” of what is happening, Good Night, and good luck to all.
please keep us informed amen until then
i think that the seven trumpets and veils will all occur in the seven year tribulation, i dont think that it has already occured but what do i know, this is all Gods plan not mine.
Agreed! Let the Word Of God be true and every man a liar.
this is so random and insane. i dont believe in any of this.
Random & Insane? Got any scripture (within context) that teaches otherwise?
Believe what you want, but this make makes better scriptural sense than anything else I have heard taught.
The Bible speaks for itself..Read!
all crazy..He loves people or his creations so much he has to wipe them off the planet to show it !!!
This all makes sense, and when explained as the way Irwin does becomes very clear. I have read and studied the last chapter of the bible for about 43 years, and I always felt the red horse was communism and the bear Russia. Revelation, Apocalypse is a revealing and the Good Lord gave us good men like Irwin to explain this to us. Open your heart and mind and you will see that we are in the last days. I am a sinner, but I welcome and hope that Jesus will return soon to rule and reign over us forever. There will be scoffers and unbelievers just as in the days of Noah. I do also believe what I heard a minister say today on TV God wants his bride, the church, those filled with the Holy Spirit to know these things and to be ready. Our redemption draweth nigh, His will be done on earth and heaven. Thank you ever so much Irwin, I am blessed to hear your word, Thank God for you. I also I think it is wonderful that you are helping Jews in Jerusalem and preparing them to by sharing your
message. God bless you Irwin!!!!!!!!!!!
Nancee girl says that she plans to make Obama her personal Lord and Messiah too real good. Good news gospel real good!
Lest heaven and earth pass away if my word shall not be fullfilled
whoo! this is interesting.
Regarding the seven trumpets – ( 5th trumpet, 1st woe ) I don’t see how this 5th trumpet could be equated to the Gulf war of 1991, or any war for that matter – scripture plainly states that this is locust (of some type, reserved for the appointed time) and they are commanded not to kill but only have authority to hurt men five months with stinging, as the sting of a scorpion. (3rd trumpet ) Scripture ( Rev. 8:10,11) states that the waters were made bitter and many men died because of the bitter waters and not from nuclear radiation such as was the result of the Cherynobl incident. ( Trumpets 1 & 2 ) ( Rev. 8:7,8,9 ) The Holy One of Jacob, The Almighty God, The creator of all things, does not need planes and bombs to accomplish His Will. Check out Exodus 9:23,24. Here we find that God sent fire mingled with hail upon the land of Egypt – (see Ezekiel 38:22; Rev. 16:21 ).In short, I can’t see that any of the trumpet sounds could be equated to any modern day wars except possibly trumpet 6 (Rev. 9:14, 21 ) . The four angles are loosed from the river Euphrates and given a year, a month, a day, an hour to slay the third part of men. Again, this army of two hundred million does not have to be a modern military army. Whatever this army consist of it only has a short time to accomplish its task – to slay a third part of men. This could take place during the first half of the trubulation. It is not clear if this “third part of men” is a specific geographical area or if men are slain in all parts of the earth. I lean toward the thought that this is not a standing army of 200,000,000. Could be demonic spirits in likeness to the locust of the fifth trumpet. Would like to know the comments of others.
In regards to your comment/question of trumpet 6. If you wish to look at it in modern terms and speaking in a geographical context instead of a global context, you could very well overlay that passage with the current events in Syria. The Euphrates river runs through Syria and Iraq, and the Russian army as well as the Iranian military are both supportting the Syrian government in the civil war there, and the total amount of casualties and displaced citizens of the region grows exponentially everyday and could very well reach one third of that regions population in the time frame mentioned. But due to the location of this conflict and the parties involved therein I don’t believe that it refers to a “local” war if you will. I believe it refers to the begining of WWIII or the war to end ALL wars. Given the locale, context, and current events in that region of the world. I believe it is quite literal. It could very well be local, if you will, but these events could cause an infalation in other matters in the region such as Iran-Israel and will drag us (the U.S.) and China into the mix therefore making it global and a literal standing army of two hundred million quite plausible.
Thanks Brad for your comment:
It is hard to comprehend an army of 200,000,000 engaged in battle with another army. One supposes that all of the official armies of today might add up to the 200 million, One can see that China could come close to raising an army of 200 million, if not the total 200 million. It seems the four angels of the Euphrates represent the four quarters of the earth, like as in Rev. 7:1, indicating that the slaying of one third of men would not be confined to a given local or regional area or even confined to a given hemisphere. Regarding the “one third of men”. does one interpet this as one third of the male gender or one third of mankind including women and children. It appears that the 200 million is not a part of the “one third slain”. Assuming the 200 million engaged another army of 200 million and they killed each other down to the last man, that is only 400 million. The population of the earth is what, seven billion plus/?. Assuming one third is 2.3 billion how many of these would be of the male gender. Probably less than half, indicating the interpertation of the “one third of men” would inclued women and children. One can see that if today’s “powers that be” were to engage in a nuclear war one third of mankind could be slain. In todays world it is doubtful that there are enough nuclear weapons to kill 2.3 billion people. In todays world are there enough conventional weapons to arm an army of 200 million? One can see that if the 200 million were divided into “killing squads” and dispersed through out the four quarters of the earth they could very well kill 2.3 billion innocent men, women and children. Rev. 9:18: “by these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which isssued out of their mouths”. The orgin of the fire, smoke and brimstone is still somewhat of a mystery. More revelation needed.
I have heard thru the years several Bible theologians teach on Revelations & Irwin Baxter’s interpretations are the closet to the truth so far. After listening to him (very carefully) I have to say, he is the most accurate & on point one yet. I believe he prayerfully gets his answers. For those who say they “don’t believe” any of this – don’t worry-this is not for you. God is speaking to His children, aka: “Believers”.
Thanks Carolyn for your reply – To be sure I am not anti Irwin Baxter – No doubt that he has a keen insisght regarding end time prophecy. However, I can’t concede that “trumpet no. 5” has anything to do with a war. Wars involve the killing of mankind. The locust of trumpet 5 have no authority to kill. Only to hurt men five months with a sting like unto a scorpion sting. If I am missing something in this scripture – perhaps someone can reveal to me that which I am missing.
Amen
I believe all 4 Horsemen are described correctly,I can’t find any fault in Baxter’s interpretation,I’m trying but I can’t.The Black Horse sticks out like a sore thumb,day after Thanksgiving, they call it Black Friday start of Xmas shopping or when a company make’s a profit they call it in the Black.They don’t even know why the color Black was chosen,only that it’s an old accounting term they use.
I have enjoyed your programs on Daystar so much. Watched the entire first presentation and am now watching it again. The first time you mentioned that the 4 horsemen represented the spirit of Communism, Catholicism, Capitalism and Islam took me by surprise. I had already gotten three of them but Capitalism? But then, I was listening to you the other night and I saw something—-maybe. Is it possible that the scripture that reveals that Capitalism will cause famine also reveals something else. The part that tells the angel not to hurt the oil or the wine. I know that you said that that refers to the stock market–commodities. But suddenly I wondered if this might be a prophecy that America–the wine, and Israel–the oil would not be damaged in the coming financial crisis. Anyway, just wanted you to know how much I appreciate your insight and teaching. For the first time in a lifetime of questioning, endtime prophecy is starting to make sense to me.
I am thrilled with the revelations.May the Holy Spirit give u more of these.
understanding endtime
im scared
Don’t be scared jesus will safe those who believe
Scoti, there is no reason to be scared, but I understand how it feels to realize one of these days the earth will be no more. One thing about it, in the Bible is says no man will know when the time will come when Jesus comes back to redeem his people. Another issue is when I was a small child back in the mid-60’s, the same hysteria was happening back then. We knew the earth was going to go away. I was scared, just like you. There is a doomsday clock and back in the 60’s the clock almost struck 12 which that led into the end of time. Of course at that time, nuclear bomb threats were unnerving and people were building fall-out shelters. In schools we had exercise how we were supposed to be if there was a nuclear fall out. The exercise is exactly like the bad weather storms exercise in schools.
The world was supposed to end when it reached the year 2000. As you can see, we are all still here. No one knows when the world will end so the best thing to do is to live your life and look towards your future. We can’t do anything anyway if the world would end at this very minute.
You will be okay. Relax, it will be okay. I promise.
When I saw the description of the four horsemen, it was like a breath of fresh air. It made so much more sense than the other explanations I have read. I had already come to some similar conclusions about the green spirit when I saw the video. On the other hand, the timing doesn’t work since capitalism became a force in the mid nineteenth century and communism didn’t take power until the early twentieth. But if you look deeper, you will see that the red spirit we now call socialism and communism didn’t begin in 1917 or even 1871. It actually started in the reign of terror under citizens Robespierre and Saint-Just. Under the ideals of liberty, equality, and fraternity, they executed tens of thousands. I see this as the true beginning of the red spirit.
I don’t agree with all of his conclusions, in particular the focus on western europe and the “rebirth of the holy roman empire”, but I see this as normal. I don’t believe any person alive on earth today sees the whole picture. Just as two thousand years ago, the people looking for the messiah didn’t understand when he came, otherwise they would not have crucified the lord of glory. Today we do not see and understand all that is happening or the enemy would also understand and would refuse to play his assigned role. Even so, God’s people are starting to see enough that we will know what to do when things get really rough. Come quickly lord Yeshua.
I am also scared, just the fact that the Earth will end, it sounds scary and breath taking. I just hope Jesus saves everybody nobody deserve to be left alone even those who sins should be forgotten for there sin nobody is perfect. I just hope everybody lives and survives in the end.
Steven, it is okay. You will be okay. For years upon years this type of hysteria has happened. We can not control what happens outside of us so live your life, look towards your future, and what ever happens is going to happen. So far we are all here. This same hysteria happened back in the 60’s, and yes as a little girl I was so scared. 2000, the world was supposed to be destroyed, and here we are in 2012-almost 2013. No man will know when Jesus will come back to redeem his people as it says that in the Bible. He gave us signs to look for when the end of times happens, but Steven, the signs have been happening at least as long as I can remember and I am 53 years old. Relax, do not read any upsetting hysteria predictions since there is nothing we can do about it anyway. Have a great time in life and leave everything else to God.
I have to admit, Im a little scared myself. I know I am a Christian. I know where I would go if I died today, there is no doubt in my mind about that…. and I dont think Im scared of dying, persay, Im just scared because nobody knows when Jesus will come back. Granted, we believe He IS coming back, but whether its pre trib, mid trib, or post trib, nobody really knows… If we do have to go through the tribulation, I honestly wouldnt know what to do…. I have 3 children that mean the world to me. And I pray every day that God would give me a greater love for Him than anyone else, but it scares me to death to think of all the possibilities that may happen to my kids, some of which I might even have to helplessly watch, if we do have to go through the tribulation. Like, if they were to tell me I have to take the mark or they will kill my kids in front of me…. I cant honestly say that I would not just take the mark to save my kids…. Am I just being weird? Does any other parent out there sometimes think like this??? I know I love Jesus, and I know that its actually wrong to love anyone or anything more than God, including your own children….. How do I deal with this? I’ve cried, I’ve prayed, I’ve prayed some more….. Do I just leave it in God’s hands? Knowing that He knows the end from the beginning? And just believe that if it were to come to that, that God would give me the strength to do what is right no matter what??? Am I the only mother that ever thinks about this? or worries about this??
2 Thessalonians 2
New Living Translation (NLT)
Events prior to the Lord’s Second Coming
2 Now, dear brothers and sisters,[a] let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and how we will be gathered to meet him. 2 Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us. 3 Don’t be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness[b] is revealed—the one who brings destruction.[c] 4 He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.
5 Don’t you remember that I told you about all this when I was with you? 6 And you know what is holding him back, for he can be revealed only when his time comes. 7 For this lawlessness is already at work secretly, and it will remain secret until the one who is holding it back steps out of the way. 8 Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.
9 This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. 10 He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. 11 So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies. 12 Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth.
Don’t be scared but look forward to the second coming. If you have too loose your kids today, be glad for you you will save them and see them again in paradise. Trust in the word, the promises in the bible. Remember this a bible is like a road map to haven so when you came to a fork in the road you will know if to turn left or right and then you will be saved through christ. The point Im making that to love or just believe is not enough. Remember Jesuses words on mount of olives, take head that no one deceives you. So read the bible simply don’t add or subtract any meaning in it and I’m sure god will look and take you in. Its not rocket science. Be glad the sooner it all finishes the better.
Who knows how doomsday will come only the Saviour knows all people should pray and glorify His name to eternity.
that is TRUE!!
There are many Old Testament and New Testament passages concerning the times of the end. Keep in mind, the times of the end are not the end of the earth, rather the end of life as most mankind knows it. I am sure Mr. Baxter would agree that each should seek this knowledge under the leadership of a learned individual, but seek it none the less. We, as part of the human race are about to see many prophecies fulfilled over the next few years. Those years will arrive quickly. Please prepare yourself spiritually. Then prepare as many others as you can. Pass on your knowledge to those who seek it. Finally, be ready for the great rapture, regardless of the form or time that it may occur in. God Bless to all who endeavor to understand.
The term “rapture” does not appear any where in the Bible. Ther is a referance only to a gathering together of the saints made in the Gosples by Jesus, and if His words are cross referanced to those of John in Revelation you will clearly see that it is not the “greate escape” most think it is. It does not happen until closer to the end of all things. One of God’s promises to His people is that they will not experience his wrath, which just so happens to be the seven bowles mentioned in Revelation.
In the Latin Vulgate which was written in the 1600s is the same as our Bible. It is just written in Latin. The Latin Vulgate uses the term rapiemur which translated means rapture. The phrase come up hither literally means a gathering in the clouds or rapture.
Here is my problem in a nutshell. When I hear the supposed learned people of faith translate what is said in the bible in a hundred different ways. Is it any wonder that some don’t or can’t believe. God is not the author of confusion. I used to believe, and I want to believe, but who do I believe?
Please do not allow yourself to be confused by all the different interpretation of the word. The Lord lead you to this ministry because you desire the truth. The Lord said (Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled) The table is spread right here, be fed and be filled! Who do you believe? Believe in the Lord Jesus for yourself.
Yes shawn. The term “rapture” did not appear in the bible. But common that’s the modern day english.. In those days it was called “caught up”. Are we clear. You see the word caught up in 1 thessalonians 4 v 17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the lord. Read ur bible pls very well ok. Bless u.
The times that are gathering forth
are of consequence to one and all.
The 5th trumpet cannot be the Gulf war. The sealing of GOD’S servants took place @ d time of the 6th seal, if the 6th seal is the day of the Lord and d 5th trump. Is Gulf war how do you reconcile 1. d command at d 5th trump to hurt only unsealed pple. 2. That d 5th trump has taken place while the sealing @ d 6th seal which also comprise the day of the Lord is future?
More commications no world peace..
It also says in the bible that before the end of time all will wear the mark of the beast. We are a divided world and do not share any mark, currency, religion, currency, gov’t, or anything thing else. We have alot of time yet. Live your lives, remember the 10 commandments and hope, joy, faith, and the strongest of all LOVE. Love will save you….. Love is always the answer…
Hi, more than just obey the 10 commandments and love others. We’re to repent and trust in Christ for the forgiveness of or sins.
i agree….repentance and faith in Christ….repentance is not being spoken in the churches ive been to….i dont go to those churches anymore….they just speak of emotional, gushy, topics…no repenting, no acknowledgement and turning away of sin at all…..
I would like to point out that there were indeed wars before WWI that resulted in over 1,000,000 deaths. Just pointing out a fact.
There is an abundance of speculation and conjecture on both this site and thread. I hope these “opinions” are being sold as such – because that is all they are. No one has had the book of Revelation “opened” to them – that I have heard. I believe if this ministry felt the end were truly near… they would push this message with every cent that came in. In stead, we must subscribe and buy your merchandise.
The Bible tells us that the words were closed and sealed until the time of the end. We believe that the time of the end is here because of what we see in the scriptures. The trumpets being fulfilled, Israel has become a nation, the Holy Roman Empire was reborn. All of these events point us to the nearing second coming of Jesus. And we are pushing this ministry out there with every cent. We have free daily broadcasts, weekly television broadcasts, free brochures for downloading that cover a wide array of topics. Yes there are plenty of free materials. But,in order to keep this ministry afloat we have to make some materials worth something. God bless.
The Bible says that a man is worthy of his hire. If we have “hired” this site and ministry, it is only right that it be supported!
What about abortion?
I have completed two detailed studies of Revelation. The wonder of what I gleaned from my studies is that God NEVER gives up on Mankind, He pursues us all the way to Armageddon. Consider His sending out of the 144,000 Jewish Evangelists; the two Witnesses declaring the Gospel day and night; and the two angels flying over the earth declaring God’s Word. All I see is a Loving God giving us every chance to repent and turn to Him to be saved. I am a pre-Tribulation believer because God uses the Tribulation to shake up and wake up a World indifferent to the reality of Jesus as Saviour. See Revelation Chapter 2 verse 1. When the Church age ends ‘a door is opened in Heaven and God says …come up here!’ Trust in His Love and Care of you and be not afraid. He has had it all worked out since before the beginning of time. I always tell myself Jesus didn’t die on that cross to lose! He Won!!! God keep you safe in the palm of His hands.
I’m going to have to agree, the speculation byET is high on spectacular and low on analysis.
Red America- a color is whatever you make it stand for it is not our place to pass judgement and say who believes what
The Bible references to the people that see the signs of Christ’s return. For example, the sun and moon being darkened, the stars falling from the skies and so on. God bless.
this scares me alot
The Fifth Trumpet – The Gulf War?
We believe that the Gulf War was the fulfillment of the 5th trumpet. From the fires of Kuwait to the death of Saddam Hussein. God bless.
For all the pre tribs out there this is not biblically correct since even jesus warns the believers of what is to come in Revelation. Why would he warn a church that is already gone it doesnt make any sense because that is not what he said. We have to be ready at any moment and that the church will have to face some hard times ahead so be prepared. Jesus told us to be prepared when he said when u see these things take place be not afraid because I have told u ahead of time or current events in our language. trust in god and build your faith because the world will need us when the anti christ is n charge God bless u all
I did not read all the way to the bottom, so I don’t know if this question has been asked. But, what vial are we at right now? I read a lot of people being scared. God doesn’t want us to be scared. He wants us to be ready. Now if you don’t have the Holy Spirit. Then you better get it. And all you have to do is ask. And you will receive. That is what will quicken our mortal bodies and get us out of here. Read his word daily and stay in his house and stay with his people. May God Bless us all.
None of the vials have happened yet. All of these will occur at the end if the tribulation. The vials are the wrath of God.
I am thankful…that God has his hand on you. To fulfill info we need to know. God bless you.N.J.C.
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my question is this: while i do agree jesus is coming back sooner than later , isnt there sum things that have 2 happen first and ww3 and mark of the best happen b4 he comes back? Everyone says its soo close but dont all those have to occur first or am i wrong?
There are other things that must happen before the coming of the Lord. However even if it was 10 years away that is relatively soon. We have a lot of work ahead of us and now is the time to do it.
Remember that all nations will hear the gospel before the return of Christ. There are only about 50 nations left that have not heard the truth.
Isaiah 17 Syria (Damascus) destroyed,Do any of you believe this is now?
Irwin I must say you have my attention,first time I heard you I passed it off,but then I had to have another look.
This I know we are seeing things that any reasonable thinking person has to say what is going on?
Okay, so one-third of the world’s population is to be wiped out, right? (Please, before you immediately dismiss the idea, read through what I have to say.) Most teenagers nowdays keep talking about a “zombie apocalypse.” Well, what if, instead of America’s nuclear weapons wiping out that one-third of the world’s population, it were zombies. Someone in my class said that the zombie apocalyse isn’t going to happen, and I agreed with him at first. But… then my teacher said “But the bible says ‘the dead will rise'”. That statement surprised me; I got curious and looked it up. I found a website that liste some verses, but two of them caught my attention. The first is Zachariah 14:12, “And the LORD will send a plague on all the nations that fought against Jerusalem. Their people will become like rotting corpses, their flesh rotting away. Their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouth.” Whoa. Rotting corpses? If what was just described there isn’t a zombie, then I don’t know what is. And the second verse is Revelations 11:11, “But after three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them.” Zombies would be scary, wouldn’t they?
Thank you for reading what I had to say.
Thank you for sharing your idea but Biblically this will not be the case. Zechariah refers to the Battle of Armageddon which happens after the war killing one third of mankind. What you quoted is what will happen to the people during this time. It is describing a death. Revelation 11 is referring to the two witnesses. After they rise again they will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. So I do not believe the idea of a zombie apocalypse is possible.
i am glad to have found u i cannot read and understand what i read so u have helped me understand thank u.
Irvin, I used to listen to your program everyday and really appreciate your interpretation of the Book of Revelation, and your understanding of the Bible. I can’t say that I disagree with your interpretations, although, I’ve considered the Pale horse, if it is indeed green, to be the spirit of the almighty dollar. I’d like to know your thoughts on that. I know the Islamic argument is compelling, but such a small portion of their belief system is of a dangerous or a violent nature (the radical element), I’m just not so sure their ‘spirit’ qualifies as the Pale Horse. Money, and the spirit thereof however, has been killed for in a much larger capacity and probably since it’s creation. It just so happens that now, it’s green. I believe N. Korea to be a larger threat than the radical Islamist’s. Your thoughts are appreciated and may GOD Bless You!
I believe in post-trib , and always have because that is what my pastor at my church teaches. So I’m confused about those who believe there is a pre-trib. How do they think that they won’t encounter the horrid seasons. If there is a pre-trib then what would be the point of the mark of the beast?
Think of the pre-trib as the church leaving, “the faithful” throwing the world into chaos. Many church goers “the left behind’ would be a remnant having spiritual witness to truth of the rapture leading to a great multitude of believers to be harvested from the earth. It is the left behind that have the choices of the mark of the beast but God will have his chosen marked. The raptured church will be at the wedding feast with Jesus!
I believe the white horse is False Religion and represents the anti-christ’s religion. The color white is part of the deception. In Daniel the anti-christ comes in peaceably.
Kimberly: What you say is really food for thought. I never thought of it that way. I always thought, and still do, that the rider on the white horse is Jesus himself. He carries a bow but no arrows and He is wearing a crown. He comes in peace. He comes to establish His Church. White is the color symbolizing purity and the victory of the righteous. The white horse and its rider can be compared to Jesus in Rev. 19:11-16 where it reveals a victorious rider making war on the enemies of God. My Faith teaches me that White means victory, purity, dignity, Red is bloodshed and violence, Black is death, disaster, distress, Green is impending death and Purple/Scarlet is immorality. Thoughts? God bless.
I believe you are right about what the colors signify. Scripture tells us the anti-Christ will enter the claiming to be God, and will deceive many, so I think many will believe he is a deity (white).
When you say the” 2 angels come down and the first is sent to harvest the earth known as the rapture, that happened…” Does that mean you believe the rapture already happened? Or was that just a mistake that you mis – spoke?
His real name of YAHUEH & YAHUSHA.
I am having trouble with the 5th trumpet interpretation, can you please tell me your thoughts on the following.
From Rev 9:3 the focus is on describing the characteristics of the locusts. using They and their in brackets below, Note They (the locusts) had as king over them (the Locusts) etc
8 And (they) had hair as the hair of women, and (their) teeth were as the teeth of lions. [NET Notes, TSK]
9 And (they) had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of (their) wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. [NET Notes, TSK]
10 And (they) had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. [NET Notes, TSK]
11 And (they) had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.1 Rev 9:1; [NET Notes, TSK]
Saddam Housein was never the king over the apache helicopters. Also Rev11:7 goes on to say the beast (or King) that came out of the abyss kills the two witnesses. Seeing Saddam is dead not sure how this can be unless he is resurrected.
Since John didn’t know what he was seeing, think about trying to describe a helicopter in the year ?60– breastplates of iron, crown on their heads, tails like scorpions (consider the shape), fire issuing from their mouth, hair like women’s (long streams of exhaust). John saw helicopters. Whether they were of the Gulf war or another is not certain, but his description fits helicopters to my mind.
Hi, sure I can accept that it may be helicopters, my question is this who was the King over the helicopters, my bible says Appollyon.
11 And (they) had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon
King over the apache helicopters was GW Bush in this instance. Not sure if that fits?
while watching a recent broadcast about islam being the pale horse, you explained that the black horse is the spirit of capitalism and gave a good explanation for “do not touch the oil and wine” as “don’t mess up the economy”… but do you think it could also represent the Holy Spirit and blood of Christ? Christianity seems to thrive in capitalistic societies….
The locusts were the fighter planes painted with the jagged teeth, which were commonly known as shark’s teeth and eyes painted on the front of them. They had some that were known as rear-gunners (stings from their tails)
And who was the king over them?
Doesn’t it say King over the pit? That would be Saddam
it’s interesting, however, that throughout history prophecy has been wrongly attributed to events which have already taken place, when in reality many prophecies had not and have not taken place as of yet and thus cannot be attributed to things like fighter planes with rear gunners and such.
Jesus’ 2nd coming is 1st january 2022
Great, another date set….
Are you using the Jewish calendar as a timeline?
This makes sense, but my question is; when does the antichrist reign come into place throughout these trumpets and vials?
where is the safest place to be as christains living on earth when the anti christ forces every one to take the mark?
is it america , europe, new zealand. am i safe living in uk.
The safest place to be is under the blood of the Lamb and walking by the Spirit of God.
stay close to god through fellowship with god , mediate his word day and night , fasting, praying in tongues, and church. hear his voice and follow. most Christians are clueless about the things of god intellectually their smart but dumb when it comes to scriptures and what god says.
The safest placed to be in my humble opinion is in the heart of Jesus Christ. I could care less if I die but believing in Him I know that he will bring me back to live in his arms forever. I Love you GOD and Jesus Christ and may the HOLY spirit always be with me. I also Love all of you on here.
Does anybody know what the whole controversy is about. Why all this has to be fulfilled. This question is aimed at better understanding of our existence and why it all must finish soon. What caused this situation?
IF ADAM AND EVE HADN’T SINNED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, THIS AND MANY OTHER HORRORS WOULD NOT TAKE PLACE. BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE END OF THE WORLD SO THIS IS GODS’ WILL AND COMMAND.
May God help us oh
I am confused. How could the horses be Catholicism, communism, capitalism, and Islam? It seems strange. Not that I don’t believe it, I just don’t understand how it could be.
The link below will help you with this question.
http://www.endtime.com/islam/
The white horse is a conquering horse (AD 96 to AD 180). This was a time of prosperity, triumph and conquest. The bow in hand refers to the Cretans, the golden age of the Roman Empire. Their coins had a Cretan with a bow in his hand.
The red horse is a period of civil wars and bloodshed; the beginning of the end of the Roman Empire(AD 180 to AD 284).
The black horse represents famine. This is the meaning of the statement “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius”. And very heavy taxation during this period.
The pale (green) horse (AD 248 to 296) represents Death and Hades. Five thousand persons died daily in Rome. The unburied dead were eaten by dogs.
Please let me know if there’s anything else you don’t understand. I have the answers.
Many other ministers say that we, the church, the bride of Christ, will not be on Earth during the Tribulation. They say it’s like beating up your bride to be and then asking her to marry you. Plus, they mention that God removed his people before destruction is done. He removed Lot and his family at Sodom and Gamora, He removed Noah before the flood. Why would He keep His “church” here during the tribulation?
The link below should help you with this question.
http://www.endtime.com/q-and-a/god-allow-church-endure-wrath-word-says-otherwise/
Great comment! Reassuring us on our Great escape! Am I boasting here! In Christ, we adore and he reigns as our blessed hope whose returning again!
I know if I was involved in a fight, I could depend on my wife to back me up, regardless of the situation!
Rev 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
Should we expect to see this before the sixth trumpet sounds? What is your thought on this.
We are not completely sure what this specific reference pertains to but we feel the 5th trumpet came to pass with Saddam Hussein. This will not be a part of the 6th trumpet. God bless.
global warming apocalypse is approaching right now, please be ready.
I am curious of what the 7 thunders are, when they happen,we might not even know what they are unless God reveal it to us
Concerning the colors of the army of the sixth trumpet war:
One of the Bibles I have these are the colors
1. Fire
2. Chalcedony
3. Sulphur
Red, Blue and Yellow
From this same Bible(Aramaic New Covenant) it also translate the colors of the four horsemen White, Black, Red, Green. What are your thoughts?
Fourteen years ago , when I was reborn, God gave me the hunger to read the NT first in a very short time. I was not very convinced about the Rapture though,and I felt very restless. Then I decided to read the Old Testament. When I came to Noe and to Sodom and Comora when God saved Lot and his two daughters, God told me then that those were two little raptures that He did for righteous people so why not now with the Church. Then I humbly accepted that Rapture is a truth which will happen. I wait for that day and pray that my whole family will be in the rapture too. G OD BLESS YOU ALL
I’ve seen that everyone believes that the four horseman are Conquest, War, Famine, and Death. You only used Zachariah what about Revelation ?
Our teaching uses Revelation 6 as well and you can obtain Islam in Bible Prophecy in DVD or CD to learn our teaching.
Is gog/ Magog Turkey or Russia. When looking at bible maps they show Gog is turkey.
It’s Russia and China
Will the seven viles occur while we are with theLord
China Is Trying To Build A New World Order
http://www.businessinsider.com/china-is-trying-to-build-a-new-world-order-2014-9
Didn’t know where else to send this
You Won’t Even Know These Facebook Drones Are In the Sky
http://www.businessinsider.com/you-wont-even-know-these-facebook-drones-are-in-the-sky-2014-9
Having this makes it possible for the whole world to see the anti-christ and to do transactions with a number.
Military Plant In East Ukraine Devastated By Massive Explosion; Kiev Accuses Russia Of Using Tactial
Nukehttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-20/military-plant-east-ukraine-devastated-massive-explosion-kiev-blames-accuses-russia-
Could it be that one of the reasons there was a push for digital TV signal because of all the chip implants that Americans might have to take.
Bonjour,
nous venons de voir la série “comprendre la fin des temps”, que nous avons trouvé formidable.
Y aurait-il en français, une vidéo plus explicite sur les sept coupes de l’Apocalypse ?
En vous remerciant
Que Dieu vous bénisse
Isaia
Discerning the difference, the Queen of Heaven and Mary the mother of Jesus.
In the book of Revelation, a book attributed to the Apostle John, a warning is given of an horrific judgement toward Babylon. In the course of the writings it is given a feminine neuter. She is labelled as “Mystery Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth”. I saw the woman drunken with the blood of saints and with the blood of the ‘martyrs of Jesus’: (Revelation 17:5-6ab NKJV) This wicked ‘spiritual entity’ in the words of the apostle is an enemy of the good news of Jesus Christ as well as a sign of apostasy and loathsome judgement. The plurality of her motherhood reveals her as the mother of all apostasy, a deceiver and one who draws many away from the worship of the one true God.
1. In Revelation 18 it is revealed how she sees herself and the extent of her judgement that she draws upon herself and her followers. In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ 8 Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges[a] her.
New King James Version.
2. The title of Queen should not go unnoticed as the prophet Jeremiah goes out of his way to mention the reason of the fall of Judah into captivity within Babylon was among others the worship of a deity known as the ‘Queen of Heaven’. It is believed that the worship of the Queen of Heaven originated from pagan ‘fertility cult worship’. In their apostasy some of Israel gave offerings in her honour instead of honouring ‘the true and living God to whom all honour is due’ (see Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17-25) He calls them to repent, that is to have a change of mind, and to his horror they rejected all of his remonstrations against this idolatry.
3. In recent times some have unwisely, sought to render this title of the Queen of Heaven to Mary the mother of Jesus. In so doing they have set her up as an object of worship, toward which the scriptures give no notice of advice.
4. Mary was very much a faithful normal woman of her generation who after the birth of Jesus (by conception through the Holy Spirit) had other children with her husband Joseph these being James, Joseph, Simon and Judas (Jude) with half sisters as testified to by the religious people of Jesus’ day (see Mark 6:3). On another occasion it is recorded that Jesus (protecting his mother) drew a woman away from giving excessive adulation to Mary. “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” Luke 11:27-28(NKJV)
5. It is recorded in Luke’s gospel that before Mary prophesied the celebrated prophetic oracle known as the Magnificat her cousin Elizabeth (mother of John the Baptist) who had previously prophesied (by the Holy Spirit); the order being to glorify God and his way to salvation. “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! (Luke 1:41-42) Then through Mary the first words of the Magnificat “My soul magnifies the Lord, 47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Saviour. (Luke 1:46-47) Mary was not to prophesy again until her assembly with other saints at an upper room in Jerusalem, during the time of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Acts 1 14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication,[b] with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers NKJV Mary had raised her family well; to go and pursue the blessings of God.
I pray for Irvin’s speedy recovery to health that he may fulifil his “Endtime Commission”.
Numbers 6:22-27New King James Version (NKJV)
The Priestly Blessing
22 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 23 “Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying, ‘This is the way you shall bless the children of Israel. Say to them:
24 “The Lord bless you and keep you;
25 The Lord make His face shine upon you,
And be gracious to you;
26 The Lord lift up His countenance upon you,
And give you peace.”’
27 “So they shall put My name on the children of Israel, and I will bless them.”
Who are the 7 Spirits of God Mentioned in Rev. Chpt 4 V
Read Isaiah chapter 11 vs. 1-2….the rest of the chapter explains more on the seven spirits.
I find your website to be so helpful very and look forward to your SIX-LESSON SERIES.
many people are still very deceived by their own hearts we are still not near the time of the book of revelation yet that is a long way in the future of this century and the anti-Christ and his prophet are not yet even born yet and Russia is not the land of Magog for the land of Magog is the lands of Albania/Kosovo/Macedonia but in the near future it will be called the greater republic of Macedonia, but in the time of the real Anti-Christ it will be called Magog for he will be the king of that land and he will take the title of King Gog and name the country Magog and he will also inn the 2030’s conquer Yugoslavia, Romania, and Bulgaria, and change their name to Madai, and Meshech and Tubal, and that these are not cities in Russia as so many people believe, read up on the royal,family of Albania and the origins of the late king Zog of Albania, the Lord also told me back inn the 1980’s the name of the beast would be Nimrood Xandros Therion Ezogu and that he would not be even born until September 7th 2015 and that he would be descended from the family of the man called general Kasander one of the four generals of Alexander the great via the middle ages aristocratic family of the family called skandersbeg check out what i am saying from many places where you can find out more than you know at present, may the Lord bless you
I believe that the white horse and its rider is the united states and its president. With the bow and arrow being predominantly a defence weapon, the president of the US will be engrossed in defending his/her’s country. The white horse can be contrasted with red horse whose rider has a sword. The sword is an offence weapon. If the white horse’s rider had been wanted to kill as conquering, he too would have been given a sword. The rider of the white horse is given a bow because his/her’s preoccupation is to defend his/her’s country. The bow is really not about killing as the sword is, its about defence. Anybody agrees with me?
Michael Brown again, just a word to say that there will never be an end to the world and to believe that there will be would cause some people to do very evil things before they believe it would end, for instance, why do so many cults say the end of the world will happen, but they want your money, if they truly believed the world would end why ask for your money as everybody would be dead, they know that the world will not end and they are only deceiving you, do not fear the world will never end and believe the Lord Jesus Christ and read all of the bible, for the disciples of the Lord asked him as it is recorded in the book of the gospel of Matthew chapter 24 in this way, “master, what shall be the sign of your coming, and of the end of this evil age” the Lord gave certain signs very specific signs which still have not happened if you read all of the details in that gospel in that chapter as well as the gospel of mark chapter 13 and the gospel of Luke chapter 17 and chapter 21 as well as the letters of Paul in Thessalonians and Timothy and the letters of Peter and of course the book of Revelation, there will never be an end to the world nor to the earth as it records that God the Father in the 21 chapter is sitting on his throne and he makes an announcement and says”look and see I make all things new” god is not going to destroy all things nor allow anyone else to destroy all things he is going to renew all things, may the Lord bless you all.
The White Horse- It’s rider is given a crown, so he is a king or ruler, and is victorious. Muslims believe this is their Messiah. The anti-Christ.
The Red Horse- clearly this is war. It’s given power to take peace from the earth, has a sword, so people would slaughter on another. Rev. 6:4
Black Horse- clearly famine, a ration of wheat for a days pay. Rev. 6:6 See how he holds the scales, food will be rationed.
Pale-green Horse- It tells us this is death, and over 1/4 will die by sword, famine, and plague, or pestilence. People who are sick are said to look pale or green.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/obama-brother-wants-jewish-3rd-temple-built/
Maybe he wants to play God and is pushing for his temple to be built or he has someone else in mind – Shoebat said he could be part of the Muslim brotherhood as well as a part of terrorist group, unless I misunderstood him.
https://www.intellihub.com/1000-mile-swath-u-s-may-destroyed-within-2-weeks-extinction-level-event-says-park-geologist/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/eternal-life-could-be-achieved-by-procedure-to-lengthen-chromosomes-10020974.html
Rev 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
http://www.usf-iraq.com/
Daniel 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
Will this be the end of US relations with Iraq? Just a thought!
If this is a symbol of Babylon in the book of Daniel, then how did England and the USA come out of this? Do the origins of both lead us back to Babylon?
http://aliveafterthefall.com/va-dp/ Food for thought….explains Americas role in the end times
http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/billionaire-bunkers-how-the-elite-prepare-for-doomsday/
Revelations 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
James 5
1Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. 2Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. 3Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. 4Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. 5Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.
remember the word Apocalypse means Revelation and is referring to the revelation of our Lord and savor from heaven in flaming fire taking vengence on them who do not know God and who do not obey his Gospel God bless you all.
Will Israel ever been hit with a nuke? No, if one reads carefully they will see that Jerusalem will suffer a ground invasion. So if Iran had 100 million nukes aimed at Israel, not one of them will ever land.
I’ve heard Dr. Baxter explain the shortening of days many times but, could it be possible that the 4th trumpet is the Gulf War and the 5th trumpet is Operation Shock and Awe (war after 9/11)? According to what I’ve read the smoke cloud from the Gulf War covered 1/2 of the northern hemosphere for over 100 days (1/3 of the year [day]) This makes more sense to me.
Yeah, I think so too. On the other hand, I haven’t heard him talk about it, but it makes alot more sense, because it talks about alot more than a shortening of days.
H.J.Res.15 – Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-joint-resolution/15/text
Revelation 8:
1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
I understand that Book of Revelation is not in chronological order, and that the 7 seals and 7 trumpets happen in a linear fashion together. But Rev 8:1-2 seems to suggest that the 7th seal has to be opened before the 7 trumpets can be blown. Can anyone help to explain this? Thanks+
Kenny, there is no time anchors for the seven seals. the only anchor we have is in Rev. 7:3 where the angel says “Hurt not the earth, neither the sea nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants…”. Since the first 2 trumpet plagues hurt the earth and seas and since this interruption occurs before the 7th seal, we can conclude that the seals all precede the trumpet plagues. The 7 trumpets all occur during the “great tribulation or the last 3 1/2 years of Daniels 70th week. We get this timing from the duration of the 2 witnesses who preach for 42 months and are part of the first resurrection at the sounding of the 7th trumpet. The bowls of wrath all occur after the 7th trumpet and therefore after the first resurrection. If not, then the church would experience the “Wrath of God”as the bowls are “filled” with His wrath. Your reading of 8:1-2 and your conclusion is correct. Seals happen before the trumpets begin but when they start we don’t know because scripture doesn’t tell us.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/implants-to-aid-payment-with-a-wave-of-the-hand/story-e6frgakx-1227368819195
Hello, I just wanted to share something my son and daughter told me in 2011. Early one morning they were out on the porch and heard a loud eerie sound coming from the sky, it lasted a while and frightened them so much they ran inside and locked the windows. They thought a uno made the sound. I just recently found on YouTube that many people around the world recorded these sounds and said it made the ground and the houses vibrate. I just typed in the search area trumpet sounds coming from the sky and I can say it sounds very ominous.
I’ve looked into this a little but no one knows where it’s coming from. They try to explain it away but as far as I know, never in the history of man has it ever been talked about. One gentleman tried to use science to explain it but he left out why only now can people hear it. The same things he talked about have been going on for decades but no sounds have been made or heard until recently.
God Bless!
For Irvin Baxter. I read Zachariah 6:5 and Revelation 6:2. Zacharia describes “these are going fourth to the four winds of heaven …” Revelation reads ” … a white horse, and its rider had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.” How is the White Horse Catholicism? Are you referring to the false prophet that aligns and supports the Anti-Christ?
8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
There has been no proof of the completion of the second trumpet before the sounding of the third trumpet – Over the past few years dead sea life has been washing up on shore all over the world. Could we soon see a third of the oceans turn to blood or is it one massive red tide. It is my opinion that all of the prophesies have to completed in one trumpet before the next trumpet can sound.
Fifth trumpet
9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 6And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
When did we see these things come to pass – They have not happened yet. If we say that the 144,000 is the Church, when did we see others tormented for five months that are not part of the Church? When did they seek death and didn’t find it? These things have not taken place as of yet – So can the next big thing on Gods time clock be the Sixth trumpet? No, not if all these things have to come to past first before the next trumpet sounds. If that is the case, the events in trumpet 2 have not come to completion. What are your thoughts on this?
Mark, just an alternate thought. When you read the first four seals, first 4 trumpets and first 4 bowls, it would seem that theses are back to back to back in rapid succession. In that case, there is no need for the first to be 100% complete when the next strikes. In that vein I believe the four horsemen will all ride for a while together.
So in keeping with that train of thought, then it is possible that while the bound angels are preparing, during that time the seventh trumpet could sound before the war takes place.
Not sure of your point or question. I was stating the the first four seals and trumpets (and even all 7 bowls) seem to happen in rapid succession. The invasion of the army of the 6th trumpet is not constrained by any action. The angels are not “preparing” for anything, they were “prepared” (readied) for this specific time and purpose. The inference for the three “woe’s” is that they happen in sequence and so I don’t think the 7th trumpet sounds before the war of the 6th trumpet. Hope this helps.
You said that you didn’t think 100% of trumpet 5 needed to be completed before trumpet 6 sounded. So in keeping with what you said it could also be applied to trumpet 6 – not all things need to be 100% complete before trumpet 7 sounds off. What you would apply to one trumpet can be applied to all trumpets – none of them have to fully completed before the next one sounds. I’m not sure I agree with that, but we will soon find out and I know we do agree on that.
Mark you may have expanded my thoughts into something I didn’t really say. I do believe that the first four trumpets sound in rapid succession as do the first four seals. Because of this, the four horsemen and the damages to the earth are happening more or less at the same time. The fifth and sixth trumpets are also considered “woes” and the woes are sequential, one before the other so I do not think that the sixth sounds until the 5th is done per Rev. 9:12. So if my words about the first four seals and trumpets misled you I apologize. Maybe we are closer now.
There was an interesting video on news last week that showed water that had turned red like blood. It was in Crimea and algae in the water caused the reddish color. Too much algae in a body of water destroys the oxygen fish need to go through their gills. it sucks the life out of everything in the water. it made me think of the scriptures that the water will turn to blood or look like blood. This could be one of the reasons why or what will happen to cause the blood like look. The fish will die because of it too. Just thinking.
Pamela: Remember when the oil rig in the Gulf had that explosion? Remember how the water turned red there too.? I bet that got a lot of people thinking. Blessings…
Yep I remember seeing it on the news and I thought, “One big earthquake in the gulf would open up the deep and the oil would flood the Gulf of Mexico and beyond.”
I read this in the headlines but not sure if this is true – FDA had to increase the allowable amount of radiation in seafood because of Japan meltdown.
Here is one site:
http://blogs.naturalnews.com/the-fda-allows-shocking-high-levels-of-radiation-in-food/
Here is another site:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-approves-raising-permissible-levels-of-nuclear-radiation-in-drinking-water-civilian-cancer-deaths-expected-to-skyrocket/5331224
Thanks for the info. Blessings…
Green Horse
http://www.jpost.com/International/Empire-State-Building-in-NYC-lit-up-in-green-for-Eid-al-Fitr-409375
It is hard to imagine that after the battle of Armageddon and the end of the thousand year reign that people would come against God.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The battle of Gog and Magog will be swift.
‘Peace agreement’ and ‘confirmation of the covenant’ are not the same thing. A true confirmation of the covenant will not include land swap but will enforce what God promised to the Jews. They will be allowed to build the temple and worship on Temple Mount. Be guaranteed that 3.5 years later, the Islamic people will not put up with it anymore.
Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
The first 3.5 years it will belong to the Jew, but the last half it will be trampled on just like the scripture says.
Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
Rev 8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
http://www.naturalnews.com/050844_Fukushima_radiation_marine_life.html#
Mark,
How would Fukushima be to blame for a third of the ships being destroyed? Have you ever compared the events under the second trumpet to WW2?
I was pointing to the fish not the ships. You give information about the ships but the sea life you don’t touch on. Others have said that one trumpet could sound before the trumpet ahead of it was completed. I was just implying that this may be the fulfillment of that trumpet. I have heard Irvin say that he had no way of knowing if the sea life was killed at the same time as the ships in WW2. Sorry I was not clear.
your statement for the date of the end of the world is not biblical and you know it’jesus sed than only the father knows and is returne will be like a thief in the night no one knows be prepared in all times!So stop preaching rong teaching to the churche or bring me the biblical verses to coroborate what you say but you knows to well it wo’nt hapen you work for the god of this world!
Hello Christian,
We have never offered a date for the end of the world. I’m not sure where you got that information from.
What is your source on the 7 trumpets? Just wondering. My former babysitter saw a vision recently that was similar.
What do you mean by source?
Hello everyone – Tell me what you think about this video concerning the Jewish people and the war of Gog and Magog. I did not make this, I just came across it today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZBB4R1jG8
This will make you think for a moment!
http://www.wnd.com/2015/10/top-cleric-jews-to-build-new-temple-for-devil-worship
Circa 1974, an elderly Swedish born-again believer stressed to me the importance of being in a state of readiness to meet The Lord at all times because we are not guaranteed ‘tomorrow’. That is may be the best advice I’ve ever received. He was a wise man.
Roshe: Russia or Chief
http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=4209
Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief(Strong’s #7218) prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
or
Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the Russia prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
Num 32:28 So concerning them Moses commanded Eleazar the priest, and Joshua the son of Nun, and the chief(Storng’s #H7218) fathers of the tribes of the children of Israel:
or
Num 32:28 So concerning them Moses commanded Eleazar the priest, and Joshua the son of Nun, and the Russia fathers of the tribes of the children of Israel:
I don’t believe roshe is Russia as some would teach.
I Agree
I know that what I’m about to put here some will automatically discredit it, but before you do let me show you something. In the book of Jude he quotes from the book of Enoch: 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
So discredit Enoch would be to discredit the book of Jude. With that said lets continue.
Enoch mentioned in the last days that two kings would come from Parthians and Medes. If you do a map search of these two you will see that much of Turkey and Iran is covered. Something else to consider is that true north of Israel you will find Turkey not Russia.
Psalms 120:5 Woe is me, that I sojourn in Mesech, that I dwell in the tents of Kedar!
Some try to claim that Moscow is Mesech, but Moscow was created around 1147
I do not believe in pre-tribulation! Now that that is out of the way.
Two witnesses: Revelation 11
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
If the rapture happens at the sounding of the seventh trumpet, why is it the two witnesses are raptured before the Church.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
As you can clearly see the two witnesses are resurrected before the sounding of the seventh trumpet. By using the scripture can someone show me what I may be missing, because my belief in the last trumpet rapture no longer is true. As of now it appears that the rapture happens during the sounding of the sixth trumpet and that the sixth trumpet is the last trumpet for the Church and not the world.
Sixth seal: We also read about the rapture.
Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Revelation 15: We read about the Church in heaven before the seven vials are poured out.
Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are
thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
Verse 2 clearly depicts the Church got victory over the beast and his image before the vials are poured out. They could only be there in heaven if the rapture happened.
Is everytime we read about voices, thunderings, lightnings and earthquakes the rapture or the return of Jesus. If that were the case then the rapture happens before the sounding of the seven trumpets. I do not believe Revelation 8:5 is the rapture.
Rev 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
Sixth trumpet & Sixth vial
Rev 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Could WW3 and the battle of Armageddon be the same war?
I do believe the Church will be here during the mark of the beast.
The church will not be here during the trubilation,theywill be with JESUS.
Get a original old bible,not this new translation bible,they are not there to make the bible easier to understand but to confuse and mislead. Do research on it and see the differences for yourself.
Louis, as a pre-triber, for you to have an impact on this site you need to show by scripture your points. This is well debated under the headings about the rapture and so I would recomend you read those and if you believe you can rebut the arguments please do so with scripture not opinion. We are anxiously awaiting your efforts.
First, when you speak or write about separate thoughts or events it may imply time when none exists. As I read Rev. 11:12-14 I see this all happening at the same time. This is all part of the 1st resurrection which includes these 2, the 144,000, the dead in Christ and the raptured saints. The calling and the trumpet are sounding at the same time.
Rev. 6 deals with a vision of SOULS in heaven not resurrected bodies. All of the seals are previews of future events, the four horsemen are of the beginning of sorrows, the fith seal a preview of the trumpet plagues and the sixth a preview of the bows of wrath. 7th signifies the silence before the trouble starts. All my opinion.
Rev. 15 does depict the raptured church in heaven before the wrath is poured out. By the way the Greek word for “got the victory over” is the same word used in chapters 2 & 3 for “overcome”. So what the churches must overcome is the mark of the beast which comes during the Great Tribulation.
No, every time we hear about thundering and lightening it is not the rapture.
Rev. 8:5 is not the rapture. You are correct.
No ww3 and Armageddon are not the same. WW3 as portrayed here is the war of the 200,000,000 man army of the 6th trumpet and Armageddon occurs after the 7th vial and at the return of Christ who destroys the armies Himself.
Good questions and good research.
President Erdogan of Turkey just gave a speech about INVADING Jerusalem
http://therightscoop.com/president-erdogan-of-turkey-just-gave-a-speech-about-invading-jerusalem/
This happened last year in May – Maybe this was covered last year by End Time and I may have missed it. Before I saw this I’ve made post about Turkey invading Israel not Russia.
Shocking: Muslims Are Now Declaring Erdogan As God
http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/muslims-praise-key-mideast-leader-like-god/
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/a-new-muslim-vision-rebuilding-solomons-temple-together/2013/03/12/
Possible Muslim Approval Of Third Temple Construction
http://realtemplemount.com/temple-mount-news/
If the link works correctly, it is the flag for the Russian President and in the center is a white horse. I know that some say that Catholicism is the white horse but this is just a thought of it being Russia with no real proof.
http://i49.tinypic.com/2n8r1wz.png
Isa 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
Do some research on earthquakes & volcanoes in the past year it will surprise you.
I was confused on this until i did some research: (KJV) Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
‘days’ is a mistranslation and it should read: And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred evening-morning; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
They offered daily sacrifices in the evening and in the morning so that means 2300 equals 1150 days.
1150 = 3.20 years
Where does the anti-christ come from? Take a map of Alexander’s empire and overlap the Roman empire you will notice a few countries that are covered by the same empires. In that small area is where he will come form and about 65% of that is muslim.
I get my information from Daniel chapter 8 and 11
And you would be right.
Worse than the days of lot!!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3446157/Unholy-row-church-s-play-portrays-Jesus-transgender-woman-refers-God-Mum.html
http://www.infowars.com/top-libertarian-warns-of-martial-law-cashless-society-2/
http://www.infowars.com/world-war-3-could-start-this-month-350000-soldiers-in-saudi-arabia-stand-ready-to-invade-syria/
Did the 5th trumpet sound?
Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
1. They had a king over them
2. The king is an angel
3. Was Saddam Hussein an angel
What are your thoughts?
The three woes
Rev 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
First woe = trumpet 5
Second woe = trumpet 6
Third woe = trumpet 7
The events in the second woe will not happen until the events in the first woe have been completed. The same applies to the rest of the woes.
Rev 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
From Rev 9:1-12 is the first woe
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
From Rev 9:13 to Rev 11:14 is the second woe
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
The two prophets are resurrected during the second woe and the seventh trumpet starts at the third woe.
So lets ask the question – Does the rapture happen during the second or third woe?
Just as a thought – the woes do not intermingle – The scripture clearly shows that one is finished before the other one starts.
Per Jesus and Paul at the sounding of the trumpet and last trumpet.
To me, this is the prove all if it is pre or post tribulation:
First I’ll ask two questions;
1. Do the Jews keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus?
2. In a pre-tribulation situation – Did the ones that got left behind keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus?
The answer to both of these questions is, NO!
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Knowing that the Jews and the ones that would be left behind did not keep the commandments or the faith of Jesus, who would be the ones that did keep them.
Simple answer – The Church
God Bless!
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/62512/temple-mount-disappearing-before-our-eyes-jewish-world/#gJY5Bs6D7Xi7vywP.97
It doesn’t matter what man thinks, says or does – the building of the third will happen no matter what comes.
Instagram CEO Meets With the Pope to Discuss the Power of Images
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/271451
I did not make this video
WARNING: Pope Francis Calls For One World Religion! Calling Jesus A ‘Failure’? BLASPHEMY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAaoIoFqtkA
North Korea has been firing nuclear weapons for experimentation to see if they have the power to use them in war.
What causes earthquakes and can they be caused by nuclear explosions?
USGS FAQs Can nuclear explosions cause earthquakes? – USGS
http://www.usgs.gov/faq/node/3339
Of Nuclear Bombs and Earthquakes
seismo.berkeley.edu/…/seismoblog.php/2009/05/25/of-nuclear-bombs-and-earthquakes
Do Bombs Cause Earthquakes? Human-Triggered Earthquakes
geology.about.com/cs/eq_hazards/a/aa033102a.htm
Good post!
we all have to get our self prepared for the rapture day.
do not let anything thwart or stop you from serving God, and making it to the kingdom of GOD.
http://www.today.com/pets/move-over-bald-eagle-america-s-got-new-national-symbol-t89536
Revelations 12:14
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Will this change some of the Understanding The End Times teachings?
Is a bison anywhere in prophesy?
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Jordanian-parliament-speaker-We-oppose-the-peace-treaty-with-Israel-454002
Jordan may escape out of the hands of the anti-christ but does it mean they will still be friends with Israel? They don’t need to be friends for this to happen.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
-Israel can make a peace agreement with many but leave out the Palestinians and the prophecy could still be fulfilled in this manner. It seems likely that they will be involved but it isn’t necessary. We need to be careful not to be looking for something that we think it will be and God has a different plan. Keeping our eyes open and not leaning to our understanding is the only safe way to get through the end time. Israel could sign a new peace agreement with Jordan and other countries, excluding Palestine, and start building the temple. There is nothing that I have seen in the Bible that says Palestine will have a peace agreement with Israel – it is only assumed that they will.
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
http://www.charismanews.com/culture/57307-blasphemous-huffpo-writer-insists-mary-and-jesus-were-transgenders
Tzfat Chief Rabbi declares ‘next step is the Temple Mount’
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212779#.V0hD7xjiu03
https://truedsicernment.com/2008/09/06/%E2%80%9Crosh%E2%80%9D-is-not-russia/
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/36054-rosh-not-biblical-reference-russia.html
https://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/gog-of-magog-does-rosh-mean-russia-or-chief-understanding-the-hebrew-text-gives-us-the-answer/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27_(name)
Bible says a grievous sore will develop on the ones that took the mark of the beast.
Revelations 16:12 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
http://www.antichips.com/cancer/index.html
http://www.antichips.com/press-releases/chipped-pets.html
Netanyahu Allies Donated to Groups Pushing for Third Temple
http://www.haaretz.com/settlementdollars/1.690821
What is a caliphate?
A caliphate is an Islamic state. It’s led by a caliph, who is a political and religious leader who is a successor (caliph) to the Islamic prophet Muhammad. His power and authority is absolute.
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.